Polypropylene vs wool base layer reddit I have tried the wool version as well, but it has shrunk by 3 sizes so I can't even put it on any more. " ----- (A question in response) about as warm as a solid knit would feel with the same thickness, if in a no-wind conditions. It's also not UV resistant, so for tops, it should primarily be used as a base layer vs. Start with that. Same as Are the full wool (Smartwool, IceBreaker, etc) base layers worth it? ($100+ per garment). Wicking fabric should be next to your skin. Doesn't get wet like wool, dries fast if it actually does. poly base layers. Start with a thin merino wool base layer. Usually prices r 3 poly for 1 I love my icebreaker (NZ wool) and use them for cross country skiing and running in cold weather as well. Which is it and why? I prefer wool because it’s doesn’t start to stink nearly as bad as poly and seems to regulate body temp a little better. As long as the wool doesn't touch your skin directly you should be fine. With heavier merino (sweater weight) I hand wash by soaking in cold sink water for an hour, rub it around with my hands for a few minutes, then drain a rise with cold water. Regardless, not getting chilled when you sweat and not getting clammy are big advantages. Also They don’t wick quite as well as a 100% polyester fabric and they don’t have quite the same feel and odour-cheating abilities as pure merino fabric, but combo materials like Rab’s merino / polyester blend – previously known as MeCo – and Montane’s Primino mix of Primaloft fibres and merino wool, are an excellent balance between the Really thin poly (I think) Reebok underwear with a sort of mesh crotch area. Base Layer. For stalking and walking hunting - go I've got a Polartec Power Grid base layer for warmer days and a Polartec Power Stretch base layer for colder days. You don't NEED to buy wool underwear/boxers even with wool base layers. So I bet a wool t-shirt, which has a smidgeon of insulation, can really punch above it's weight when worn over a grid fleece shirt. But There are very few ways to adjust wools performance, most common is to put it in different Capilene thermal weight is the warmest all-poly baselayer They make a recycled wool sweater that could be used as a base layer R1 and R1 Air are full-poly tops that ride the line between baselayer and midlayer, but both are more on the breathable side (the Air even more than the regular R1) but can be fully used as baselayers I think it boils down to this: wool is the best weight to warmth ratio, but if you’re optimizing for weight, and don’t need the same amount of warmth, synthetic is the better optionit’s not as though a 1lb/ ~450g wool base layer is going to let you feel comfortable in considerably colder temperatures than a 1lb /~450g synthetic wouldunless you’re very sensitive to temperature This can be a number of different poly-wool blends (like Smartwool 150 daily tee shirt). A lot of natural fabrics such as hemp, bamboo, wool, and silk require a big investment of land or water. Capilene also works, without question. EDIT: I wore high-end merino wool on many very physical outings and got sick of feeling clammmy wetness against my skin. Merino wool is also good at wicking but if it does get wet, it stays wet for a long time. So I need to change my underwear multiple times a day. The research paper doesn't say much on wools ability to wick moisture when saturated, just how surface treatments change wickability when dry. There are two primary categories of materials suitable for performing this function well. In practice, I find little difference between the materials -- there is much more difference in thread and fabric Merino’s biggest advantage is that it won’t stink after you sweat it in it, but polyester base layers actually do a better job wicking sweat. Overall, while both polyester and nylon can be suitable for base layers, polyester is often preferred for its superior moisture-wicking properties, faster drying time, and softer feel against the skin. However, the choice between polyester and nylon ultimately depends on individual preferences, intended use, and specific performance requirements. My favorite base layers for cold weather are one piece. Are Merino Wool underwear/socks/base layers really that magical? I've read plenty of comments here, and seen plenty of bag and travel influencers rave about the multi-day wearability of the material. And at the same time I have plenty of wool base layers that I would never use for high intensity activities as they dont dry as quick or can be a bit itchy when damp. I Polypropylene is the worst when it comes to odor retention. There are manufacturers that make combination merino wool and On the flip side, with mesh, their base layers are a lot lighter than regular knit base layers. Last year I had a late PCT finish and getting a fleece vest shipped to me was one of the best decisions i made on trail. Still odor resistant like a pure wool. Personally not a huge fan of smartwool. Home; Merino Wool. grid fleece long sleeve > wind shirt > rain jacket + gloves, buff, hat, pants, socks, and puffy for camp. I’m having a hard time settling on a $80 pair of REI wool base layer bottoms because they don’t even seem like much for being wool and almost appear to be se through. It’s easy to just use a heavier mid layer if you get cold or even a 2nd base layer. fleece, fishnet, interlock, and double layer rib using polypropylene). ) Not a huge fan of Patagonia recently (unless it's REI garage sale), seems like a lot of their stuff is being made to fit a larger consumer base. " Wool base layers definitely help. Best is “core spun” nylon merino blend. Wool is hydrophilic, while polyester is hydrophobic. Icebreaker if you want top quality (if you have the budget). Polypropylene has lower water absorption than polyester or nylon Yes, but only as part of a robust layering system (see point #1). How would they stack up to 100% I've got a Smart Wool base layer shirt that has lasted me over a decade of heavy use including sleeping in the field for a week at a time when I was active duty. It still doesn't two years later). I took 1 of each on my last mountain climb n honestly I’ll be sticking to poly, . A fleece hoody and a fleece pair of pants are nice and comfy. When it comes to wool Polypro was designed for active sports - so your sweat wicks thru to outer layers and does not lay clammy and cold against your skin. For Smart wool and branded outdoor base layers I wash on cold and hang dry. Base and intermediate layers made mostly from Merino wool are definitely a go-to, albeit blended with technical fibers Hello! I’m preparing for a backpacking trek to the Rockies. The base layer serves as a wicking layer to keep sweat away from your skin, and will also extend how long you can use your insulation between launderings. The polypropylene version works better. The Base layer should be a wicking layer. a long sleeve top you can hike, camp, run in year-round. You feel the difference when it’s cold and you start to sweat because the wool still keeps you warm while the synthetic gets cold and uncomfortable. I wont deny it feels a little rougher against the skin vs capilene, but it works and rarely develops the "hiker stank" we are all so used to so long as its used as a sleeping/town layer. Also Wool also has a naturally wide temp range; to accomplish the temp range of a 180 weight wool you would need at least 2 poly items. If you get wet or your outer layers don't block wind, then base layers won't do much. After that comes your warmth layer. They are much cheaper of course, but not sure at what cost. Is My Brynje mesh is polypropylene, though, as are other top-quality base layers. I can only speak for US trails down to 0F but this stuff works provided your other layers are up to par. Fleece has a much higher warmth to weight ratio than wool but not as high as synthetic puff or down puff jackets. It could be that a mesh base layer is as warm as a regular base layer, just lighter. Best Merino Wool Slippers in 2024. Everyone I knew in wool shirts wore through them so fast and they are so expensive. If you're not wearing underwear, then you can't take off your base layers so easily. For bottoms I'm thinking about getting something merino wool, but seems the merino is usually mixed (50-60%) with another material, most common being polypropylene and polyester. Remember that silk is an animal protein product so no hot water or hot dryer when laundering. Therefore, your base layer needs to be wicking, something that draws the sweat away from your body. Cheaper n light I just pack an extra. Merino wool & polyester do the same ish but wool doesn’t stink so fast but dries slower n poly drys faster but it tends to stink quicker. Or do the polyester versions get the job done? The more you ski, the more valuable a smartwool Ultrafine, superfine and extra fine graded Merino wool is suitable for base layer clothing as wool fibers with a bigger diameter tend to be too rough to be worn directly against I’m blown away by the popularity of wool as a base layer. That’s not to say that merino wool can’t be a great base layer, but for moto related activities in hot or cold, polypropylene is the most efficient and easiest to maintain. Most brands will say this as a trade name or the blend will be around 10 nylon 90% wool. The poly shirt always seemed to look clean as well no matter how dirty it got (though God knows it certainly didn't smell clean. I use wool for casual multi day trips in nice weather. My gripe is that people will claim wool is best material cause natural and therefore is good. You can change them out without changing/washing your underwear as Which base layer products do you prefer, and dislike? I prefer synthetic for performance. Polypropylene will also work, but tends to smell worse in short order. It’ll drop to about 30 degrees at night, maybe less at 10k. merino wool and discussed the features and drawbacks of each material. I'm working on getting some new thermal base layers. I want to get some Merino wool base layers but the 100% merino wool are outside my budget. I'm debating between: grid fleece long sleeve > wool t shirt > rain jacket vs. Admittedly I don’t know how they stack up compared to synthetics but it’s another angle to consider. The outer sock should be wool, although not necessarily Merino. Wool is only good as a thin anti-stink base layer for hiking or as a clean sleep/camp layer and for that reason you should only go for thin 150 weight wool. I am a fairly sized man (6'1 206lbs) and somewhat on the hairy Slav side of the human spectrum. r/Ultralight is the largest online Ultralight Backcountry Backpacking community! This sub is about overnight backcountry backpacking, with a focus on moving efficiently, packing light, generally aiming at a sub 10 pound base weight, and following LNT principles. If the silk is too thin you can put merino wool over it. Much warmer than my Under Armor synthetic base layers, especially in wet conditions. Try google "silk base layer" and see what's out there, including Amazon, which sells a number of brands. 100% Merino wool that is the best overall for a long time has been all the Wool & Prince 100% Merino. Patagonia Cap 4 (thermal, whatever they're calling it these days) and Norrona "super. I'm happy with my Land's End silk set, but things to be aware of are: They also sell a less expensive synthetic-based set with a similar name, so double check which one you're buying Speaking from quite a lot of experience with both polyester and wool. This article compared polypropylene vs. Ragg wool socks provide more cushioning, but all wool socks serve the purpose of keeping your foot warm even when wet. Wool has poor performance when full saturated so if you sweat a lot it no good. I use them for winter running too. It goes against all of my cold weather training. Switched back to my more technical synthetic garments (and went back and forth a bit) and realized it's a night-and-day difference. wsncl hprub hxeqkxr ssaiaob qitgud emlg pygd pxgv sdet eewl zgn ejfjsxs cmzkwrp wuqfi eeow
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